Wednesday, November 09, 2005

[Manchester_United_2004] Digest Number 914

------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/GtUolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Manchester united vs chelsea part 1
From: "H@lby" <halbykvarghese@gmail.com>
2. Re: Re: slaves
From: Samantha Bond <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@yahoo.co.uk>
3. Bravo Soccernet!
From: Preston Adams <preston_adams101@yahoo.co.uk>
4. Bravo Soccernet!
From: Preston Adams <preston_adams101@yahoo.co.uk>
5. its bit late
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>
6. Re: its bit late
From: kunal kohli <kunalkohli173@yahoo.com>
7. Re: slaves
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Bravo Soccernet!
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
9. Glazer News
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
10. UEFA Plans To Fail
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
11. We Still Want Mikel
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
12. Re: i think sir alex outwitted jose
From: kunal kohli <kunalkohli173@yahoo.com>

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:31:40 +0530
From: "H@lby" <halbykvarghese@gmail.com>
Subject: Manchester united vs chelsea part 1

--
\\\\////
/ | \\ // |
( | (.) (.) |)
-------------o00o-----(_),----o00o--------------------------------------------

"THERE ARE NO STRANGERS IN THIS WORLD ONLY
FRIENDS WE JUST DON"T KNOW!!!"

Halby.K.Varghese

-------------ooo0-------------------------------------------------------------

( ) 0ooo
\ ( ( )
\_) ) /
(_ /

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:35:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: Samantha Bond <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: slaves

that's still a long time to wait before we play the arses!!!! hopefully we'll play them sooner in the carling cup!!!! i loooooooove beating the arses!!!!

sam

"WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
we play the french arses january 2 at that dump they call highbury
and april 8 at home!

Reni

--- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
<football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
>
> yes, they have given us a big reason to believe in them by beating
chelsea on sunday who's next? when are we playing the arses? i'd
looooooooooove to see the look on wenger's face when we beat them
again!!!!
>
> yoyo <lanena_peque@y...> wrote:Well those are nice thoughts
Preston!.....
> I agree with ya
>
> yoyo
>
> Preston Adams <preston_adams101@y...> escribió:
> Oi Reni, leave it mate, Bondy's been nice here, wouldn't want her
to leave the group due to minor misunderstandings, however Bondy,
girl you oughta show more faith in our boys henceforth. I think they
have given us more than a reason to believe.
>
> "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote: actually you weren't
a realist because the shit that you thought
> didn't even happen so that wouldn't make it real would it?
>
> Reni
>
> --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> >
> > reni...as preston said..i'm just a realist when i said that we
> can't beat chelsea. no harm intended ok.
> >
> > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:PRESTON ..... thanks
> for the words mate ... i just hate the fact
> > that so-called fans don't have the belief that the Red Devils
have
> > the chance to beat the rent boys. fuck all the non-believers!!
> >
> > GO UNITED!!! 3-1 TO THE RED DEVILS!!!
> >
> > Reni
> >
> > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Preston Adams
> > <preston_adams101@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Guys, please don't start another row here, for Keano's sake.
> > Bondy, Reni is just joking when he means that you owe an
apology,
> > and Reni, Bondy is just being a realist when she says that
United
> > have slim chances against chelski. But football is a funny game
> and
> > although the statistics show that United havent beaten chelski
> > since... Forlan winner in January 2003, I am optimistic of our
> > chances, the reason being, gaffer has now got a new challenge,
> until
> > now it was just the media that was criticising, now its his own
> > disciple Keano who has blazed him on MUTV, I am sure Fergie will
> be
> > up for it. In a nutshell, this game is the most important one
for
> us
> > in the season, we are going into it with odds stacked against
us,
> > almost every player in the team is under the microscope, if
United
> > win this game it will kick start our season and who knows what
> lies
> > ahead. There's not much we can do abt it, can we? Its upto the
11
> > Red men out there to prove their mettle, all we can do is
support
> > them and
> > > keep the Red and White flying high, I think I've said enough
> it's
> > time for the lads to deliver, no excuses, this time its war!
> > >
> > > - Preston
> > >
> > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:
> > > whatever!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i owe u nothing!!! so stop your nonsense!!!
> > > >
> > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:you should owe
me
> at
> > > least an apology for not having the MANCHESTER
> > > > UNITED NEVER DIE ATTITUDE =)
> > > >
> > > > Reni
> > > >
> > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > reni...i owe you nothing when we beat chelsea...cause
we're
> > not
> > > > going to beat chelsea. even if a miracle happens and we do
> beat
> > > > chelsea, i still don't owe you anything...got it mate?
> > > > >
> > > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:you should owe
> me
> > > > something when we win the match against the rent
> > > > > boys! i guess anything that has to do with NZ is good
> enough
> > =)
> > > > >
> > > > > Reni
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha
Bond
> > > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i'm trying my damn best to be positive reni but face
> > > it...we're
> > > > in
> > > > > trouble!!!! i've been a fan since the early 90's. there's
no
> > way
> > > > > that we'll win against chelsea on sunday it hurts but
it's
> > the
> > > > > truth... we've just gotta face it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:SAM ..
please
> > stop
> > > > all
> > > > > this negative thinking!!! this is putting
> > > > > > some of the other people down! i guess you are just not
> > used
> > > to
> > > > > > seeing United on the downfall. me, being a fan since
the
> > 80s,
> > > > am
> > > > > > sorta used to this happening. we can't always be on
> top ...
> > > and
> > > > > > sometimes losing against an average team like Boro can
> take
> > > the
> > > > > best
> > > > > > out of our stars. cheer up now and stand up for the RED
> > > DEVILS!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reni
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha
> Bond
> > > > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i don't think it's likely that our beloved manchester
> > united
> > > > > will
> > > > > > slaughter chelsea this weekend - i think they are going
to
> > > > > slaughter
> > > > > > us!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > natalia ina <natalia_ina17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > yea...i hope so....i hope m.u will bring chelsea
> > > down...about
> > > > > the
> > > > > > match between middlesbrough....dats embarassing..and im
> > > confuse
> > > > > about
> > > > > > dat...how come m.u lose in dat game???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "G...J...." <littledevil25uk@y...> wrote: YES THE
> > > CHAMPIOSHIP
> > > > IS
> > > > > > OVER,
> > > > > > > BUT LETS HOPE WE CAN SLAUGHTER CHELSEA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
new Yahoo! Security Centre.
>
>
>
> test'; " type=text/css>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB extra a tu
correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Manchester united fc
>
> ---------------------------------
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
> Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
new Yahoo! Security Centre.
>

SPONSORED LINKS
Manchester united fc

---------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

---------------------------------


---------------------------------
How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:37:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Preston Adams <preston_adams101@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Bravo Soccernet!

Fellers, check out this article I read on soccernet.com, absolutely scalding the blue jerks...


'Special One' needs new plan?


By Norman Hubbard

How do you beat Chelsea? Follow these three simple steps. Get your loose cannon of a captain to condemn most of his team-mates.

Then loft a deep cross to a seemingly nondescript midfielder, one of those criticised and a player of no known aerial ability, and watch him head in from an improbable angle.

Finally, watch your dilettante defender star in a sterling rearguard action.

Simple, really. You wonder why no one else thought of it first. Manchester United's 1-0 victory at Old Trafford ended Chelsea's unbeaten run in the Premiership, stretching back 13 months to their visit to Manchester City. It says much about Manchester United that they have been reduced to the role of giant killers, albeit giants with aspirations of immortality; first Arsenal - then 49 not out - and now a second seemingly invincible side from the capital.

Chelsea, meanwhile, have now suffered back-to-back defeats and only won one of their last five games. It is hardly a crisis but chinks in Jose Mourinho's formidable and expensively-acquired armour are starting to appear.

A defence recently regarded as unbreachable has now conceded in five successive games. On Sunday, Chelsea were outflanked, beaten by a goal created by the left winger (Cristiano Ronaldo) and scored by his counterpart on the right flank (Darren Fletcher). As Manchester United showed, quick passing to either wing can leave Chelsea's full backs isolated until their wingers drop back or the central midfielders come across to provide cover.

United showed, too, that Claude Makelele can be negated. Attacking on the flanks bypasses his sphere of influence while, when Chelsea regained possession, Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy left John Terry and William Gallas unattended to focus on the Frenchman. Man-marking brings to mind the shackling of a flamboyant talent, something Makelele patently is not.

But, of all Claudio Ranieri's eclectic metaphors, the most fitting was his description of Makelele as Chelsea's battery. Stopping him hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself; he is the man they rely on for the failsafe pass, the back-up ball if more ambitious alternatives are not available.

“Stopping Makelele hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself ”

Stop Makelele and you stop Chelsea? Not quite, but it makes for more of disjointed game when the champions are deprived of their usual fluency. But a midfield trio noted for their energy - and all seemingly immune from rotation - appeared a little off the pace; consider the number of times Manchester United had time to shoot from 20 or 30 yards.

Michael Essien was the first man substituted, and it may have revealed the comparative weakness in the Chelsea squad. Mourinho's vision of two players for each position is well known; in midfield, however, the alternatives are perpetual fringe man Geremi, converted striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and the untried Lassana Diarra.

James Beattie's theory, voiced after Everton held Chelsea at Goodison Park, was that Mourinho's men struggled against a more physical approach. Though Alan Smith took no prisoners with his tackling at Old Trafford, adversity, and not the sight of Duncan Ferguson's elbows, appears the rattle Chelsea.

Didier Drogba, their most improved player, is invariably the first to react.

Perhaps his real complaint is a lack of service. It is a telling statistic that Chelsea's last two setbacks in both the Premiership and the Champions League have come by the same scoreline, 1-0. One explanation is that few sides score twice against Chelsea anyway, but it is also indicative of the importance of scoring the first goal. Admittedly, Bolton did so and were still swept aside imperiously.

For Real Betis and Manchester United, however, one goal sufficed. It is a reminder that Mourinho has constructed his side on defensive foundations, that whereas the initial impulse for Arsenal or Barcelona is to attack, for Chelsea it is not to concede.

And an indication that the Portuguese's quartet of wingers are below their sparkling best. Damien Duff has only just returned to fitness, Shaun Wright-Phillips has only shown glimpses of his scintillating best and Arjen Robben scarcely resembles the peerless match-winner of 12 months ago.

In itself, it is an sign of Chelsea's excellence that they can prosper without contributions from outstanding individuals. They may have to do so again; Hernan Crespo has provided the first hint of mutiny since Ricardo Carvalho's summer outburst (has he taken that IQ test yet?).

And it gives Mourinho plenty of food for thought over the international break. Having mischievously declared that he thought his job would be in danger after three successive defeats, he must prepare for an improving Newcastle team aiming for the hat-trick. After blaming the rest of the Premiership for not challenging Chelsea. Manchester United have thrown down the gauntlet. Suggesting a national holiday when Chelsea lose has, at the least, earned him the admiration of the work-shy.

With the cushion of a six-point lead in the Premiership, he can turn his attention to easing the burden on the admirable Frank Lampard for goals, making either Crespo or Gudjohnsen a plausible alternative to Drogba again, revitalising the out-of-sorts wingers and tightening up England's most feared defence.

And, perhaps, to ensure that a scoreline featuring the words 'Chelsea nil' occurs less often than in the last week. Time to tweak the master plan, Jose?

---------------------------------


---------------------------------
How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:37:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Preston Adams <preston_adams101@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Bravo Soccernet!

Fellers, check out this article I read on soccernet.com, absolutely scalding the blue jerks...


'Special One' needs new plan?


By Norman Hubbard

How do you beat Chelsea? Follow these three simple steps. Get your loose cannon of a captain to condemn most of his team-mates.

Then loft a deep cross to a seemingly nondescript midfielder, one of those criticised and a player of no known aerial ability, and watch him head in from an improbable angle.

Finally, watch your dilettante defender star in a sterling rearguard action.

Simple, really. You wonder why no one else thought of it first. Manchester United's 1-0 victory at Old Trafford ended Chelsea's unbeaten run in the Premiership, stretching back 13 months to their visit to Manchester City. It says much about Manchester United that they have been reduced to the role of giant killers, albeit giants with aspirations of immortality; first Arsenal - then 49 not out - and now a second seemingly invincible side from the capital.

Chelsea, meanwhile, have now suffered back-to-back defeats and only won one of their last five games. It is hardly a crisis but chinks in Jose Mourinho's formidable and expensively-acquired armour are starting to appear.

A defence recently regarded as unbreachable has now conceded in five successive games. On Sunday, Chelsea were outflanked, beaten by a goal created by the left winger (Cristiano Ronaldo) and scored by his counterpart on the right flank (Darren Fletcher). As Manchester United showed, quick passing to either wing can leave Chelsea's full backs isolated until their wingers drop back or the central midfielders come across to provide cover.

United showed, too, that Claude Makelele can be negated. Attacking on the flanks bypasses his sphere of influence while, when Chelsea regained possession, Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy left John Terry and William Gallas unattended to focus on the Frenchman. Man-marking brings to mind the shackling of a flamboyant talent, something Makelele patently is not.

But, of all Claudio Ranieri's eclectic metaphors, the most fitting was his description of Makelele as Chelsea's battery. Stopping him hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself; he is the man they rely on for the failsafe pass, the back-up ball if more ambitious alternatives are not available.

“Stopping Makelele hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself ”

Stop Makelele and you stop Chelsea? Not quite, but it makes for more of disjointed game when the champions are deprived of their usual fluency. But a midfield trio noted for their energy - and all seemingly immune from rotation - appeared a little off the pace; consider the number of times Manchester United had time to shoot from 20 or 30 yards.

Michael Essien was the first man substituted, and it may have revealed the comparative weakness in the Chelsea squad. Mourinho's vision of two players for each position is well known; in midfield, however, the alternatives are perpetual fringe man Geremi, converted striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and the untried Lassana Diarra.

James Beattie's theory, voiced after Everton held Chelsea at Goodison Park, was that Mourinho's men struggled against a more physical approach. Though Alan Smith took no prisoners with his tackling at Old Trafford, adversity, and not the sight of Duncan Ferguson's elbows, appears the rattle Chelsea.

Didier Drogba, their most improved player, is invariably the first to react.

Perhaps his real complaint is a lack of service. It is a telling statistic that Chelsea's last two setbacks in both the Premiership and the Champions League have come by the same scoreline, 1-0. One explanation is that few sides score twice against Chelsea anyway, but it is also indicative of the importance of scoring the first goal. Admittedly, Bolton did so and were still swept aside imperiously.

For Real Betis and Manchester United, however, one goal sufficed. It is a reminder that Mourinho has constructed his side on defensive foundations, that whereas the initial impulse for Arsenal or Barcelona is to attack, for Chelsea it is not to concede.

And an indication that the Portuguese's quartet of wingers are below their sparkling best. Damien Duff has only just returned to fitness, Shaun Wright-Phillips has only shown glimpses of his scintillating best and Arjen Robben scarcely resembles the peerless match-winner of 12 months ago.

In itself, it is an sign of Chelsea's excellence that they can prosper without contributions from outstanding individuals. They may have to do so again; Hernan Crespo has provided the first hint of mutiny since Ricardo Carvalho's summer outburst (has he taken that IQ test yet?).

And it gives Mourinho plenty of food for thought over the international break. Having mischievously declared that he thought his job would be in danger after three successive defeats, he must prepare for an improving Newcastle team aiming for the hat-trick. After blaming the rest of the Premiership for not challenging Chelsea. Manchester United have thrown down the gauntlet. Suggesting a national holiday when Chelsea lose has, at the least, earned him the admiration of the work-shy.

With the cushion of a six-point lead in the Premiership, he can turn his attention to easing the burden on the admirable Frank Lampard for goals, making either Crespo or Gudjohnsen a plausible alternative to Drogba again, revitalising the out-of-sorts wingers and tightening up England's most feared defence.

And, perhaps, to ensure that a scoreline featuring the words 'Chelsea nil' occurs less often than in the last week. Time to tweak the master plan, Jose?

---------------------------------


---------------------------------
How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:52:40 -0000
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: its bit late

but 1-0 we won well done lads

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:40:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: kunal kohli <kunalkohli173@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: its bit late

UTD have to play out of their skins to win the league this season

but

we'll be suppoting them

wisdomking456 <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
but 1-0 we won well done lads

SPONSORED LINKS
Manchester united fc

---------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

---------------------------------

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:39:50 -0000
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: slaves

league cup final would be nice =)

Reni

--- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
<football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
>
> that's still a long time to wait before we play the arses!!!!
hopefully we'll play them sooner in the carling cup!!!! i loooooooove
beating the arses!!!!
>
> sam
>
> "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:
> we play the french arses january 2 at that dump they call highbury
> and april 8 at home!
>
> Reni
>
> --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> >
> > yes, they have given us a big reason to believe in them by
beating
> chelsea on sunday who's next? when are we playing the arses? i'd
> looooooooooove to see the look on wenger's face when we beat them
> again!!!!
> >
> > yoyo <lanena_peque@y...> wrote:Well those are nice thoughts
> Preston!.....
> > I agree with ya
> >
> > yoyo
> >
> > Preston Adams <preston_adams101@y...> escribió:
> > Oi Reni, leave it mate, Bondy's been nice here, wouldn't want her
> to leave the group due to minor misunderstandings, however Bondy,
> girl you oughta show more faith in our boys henceforth. I think
they
> have given us more than a reason to believe.
> >
> > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote: actually you weren't
> a realist because the shit that you thought
> > didn't even happen so that wouldn't make it real would it?
> >
> > Reni
> >
> > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > reni...as preston said..i'm just a realist when i said that we
> > can't beat chelsea. no harm intended ok.
> > >
> > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:PRESTON .....
thanks
> > for the words mate ... i just hate the fact
> > > that so-called fans don't have the belief that the Red Devils
> have
> > > the chance to beat the rent boys. fuck all the non-believers!!
> > >
> > > GO UNITED!!! 3-1 TO THE RED DEVILS!!!
> > >
> > > Reni
> > >
> > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Preston Adams
> > > <preston_adams101@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guys, please don't start another row here, for Keano's sake.
> > > Bondy, Reni is just joking when he means that you owe an
> apology,
> > > and Reni, Bondy is just being a realist when she says that
> United
> > > have slim chances against chelski. But football is a funny game
> > and
> > > although the statistics show that United havent beaten chelski
> > > since... Forlan winner in January 2003, I am optimistic of our
> > > chances, the reason being, gaffer has now got a new challenge,
> > until
> > > now it was just the media that was criticising, now its his own
> > > disciple Keano who has blazed him on MUTV, I am sure Fergie
will
> > be
> > > up for it. In a nutshell, this game is the most important one
> for
> > us
> > > in the season, we are going into it with odds stacked against
> us,
> > > almost every player in the team is under the microscope, if
> United
> > > win this game it will kick start our season and who knows what
> > lies
> > > ahead. There's not much we can do abt it, can we? Its upto the
> 11
> > > Red men out there to prove their mettle, all we can do is
> support
> > > them and
> > > > keep the Red and White flying high, I think I've said enough
> > it's
> > > time for the lads to deliver, no excuses, this time its war!
> > > >
> > > > - Preston
> > > >
> > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:
> > > > whatever!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha Bond
> > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i owe u nothing!!! so stop your nonsense!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:you should owe
> me
> > at
> > > > least an apology for not having the MANCHESTER
> > > > > UNITED NEVER DIE ATTITUDE =)
> > > > >
> > > > > Reni
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha
Bond
> > > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > reni...i owe you nothing when we beat chelsea...cause
> we're
> > > not
> > > > > going to beat chelsea. even if a miracle happens and we do
> > beat
> > > > > chelsea, i still don't owe you anything...got it mate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:you should
owe
> > me
> > > > > something when we win the match against the rent
> > > > > > boys! i guess anything that has to do with NZ is good
> > enough
> > > =)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reni
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha
> Bond
> > > > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i'm trying my damn best to be positive reni but face
> > > > it...we're
> > > > > in
> > > > > > trouble!!!! i've been a fan since the early 90's. there's
> no
> > > way
> > > > > > that we'll win against chelsea on sunday it hurts but
> it's
> > > the
> > > > > > truth... we've just gotta face it...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@y...> wrote:SAM ..
> please
> > > stop
> > > > > all
> > > > > > this negative thinking!!! this is putting
> > > > > > > some of the other people down! i guess you are just
not
> > > used
> > > > to
> > > > > > > seeing United on the downfall. me, being a fan since
> the
> > > 80s,
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > sorta used to this happening. we can't always be on
> > top ...
> > > > and
> > > > > > > sometimes losing against an average team like Boro can
> > take
> > > > the
> > > > > > best
> > > > > > > out of our stars. cheer up now and stand up for the
RED
> > > > DEVILS!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reni
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Samantha
> > Bond
> > > > > > > <football_crazy_kiwi_chick@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i don't think it's likely that our beloved manchester
> > > united
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > slaughter chelsea this weekend - i think they are going
> to
> > > > > > slaughter
> > > > > > > us!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > sam
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > natalia ina <natalia_ina17@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > yea...i hope so....i hope m.u will bring chelsea
> > > > down...about
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > match between middlesbrough....dats embarassing..and im
> > > > confuse
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > dat...how come m.u lose in dat game???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "G...J...." <littledevil25uk@y...> wrote: YES THE
> > > > CHAMPIOSHIP
> > > > > IS
> > > > > > > OVER,
> > > > > > > > BUT LETS HOPE WE CAN SLAUGHTER CHELSEA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
> new Yahoo! Security Centre.
> >
> >
> >
> > test'; " type=text/css>
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB extra a tu
> correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx
> >
> > SPONSORED LINKS
> > Manchester united fc
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> >
> > Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all
> new Yahoo! Security Centre.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Manchester united fc
>
> ---------------------------------
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
> Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps
for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
>

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:43:34 -0000
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bravo Soccernet!

PRESTON .. i think he was right about our wingers giving the rent
boys a hard time and our central midfield outmuscling theirs. i
think that's one reason jose substituted essien. wonder if we had
the same result is robben was playing that day.

Reni

--- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Preston Adams
<preston_adams101@y...> wrote:
>
> Fellers, check out this article I read on soccernet.com, absolutely
scalding the blue jerks...
>
>
> 'Special One' needs new plan?
>
>
> By Norman Hubbard
>
>
> How do you beat Chelsea? Follow these three simple steps. Get your
loose cannon of a captain to condemn most of his team-mates.
>
>
>
>
> Then loft a deep cross to a seemingly nondescript midfielder, one
of those criticised and a player of no known aerial ability, and
watch him head in from an improbable angle.
>
> Finally, watch your dilettante defender star in a sterling
rearguard action.
>
> Simple, really. You wonder why no one else thought of it first.
Manchester United's 1-0 victory at Old Trafford ended Chelsea's
unbeaten run in the Premiership, stretching back 13 months to their
visit to Manchester City. It says much about Manchester United that
they have been reduced to the role of giant killers, albeit giants
with aspirations of immortality; first Arsenal - then 49 not out -
and now a second seemingly invincible side from the capital.
>
> Chelsea, meanwhile, have now suffered back-to-back defeats and only
won one of their last five games. It is hardly a crisis but chinks in
Jose Mourinho's formidable and expensively-acquired armour are
starting to appear.
>
> A defence recently regarded as unbreachable has now conceded in
five successive games. On Sunday, Chelsea were outflanked, beaten by
a goal created by the left winger (Cristiano Ronaldo) and scored by
his counterpart on the right flank (Darren Fletcher). As Manchester
United showed, quick passing to either wing can leave Chelsea's full
backs isolated until their wingers drop back or the central
midfielders come across to provide cover.
>
> United showed, too, that Claude Makelele can be negated. Attacking
on the flanks bypasses his sphere of influence while, when Chelsea
regained possession, Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy left John
Terry and William Gallas unattended to focus on the Frenchman. Man-
marking brings to mind the shackling of a flamboyant talent,
something Makelele patently is not.
>
> But, of all Claudio Ranieri's eclectic metaphors, the most fitting
was his description of Makelele as Chelsea's battery. Stopping him
hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself; he is the
man they rely on for the failsafe pass, the back-up ball if more
ambitious alternatives are not available.
>
>
>
> "Stopping Makelele hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder
himself "
>
> Stop Makelele and you stop Chelsea? Not quite, but it makes for
more of disjointed game when the champions are deprived of their
usual fluency. But a midfield trio noted for their energy - and all
seemingly immune from rotation - appeared a little off the pace;
consider the number of times Manchester United had time to shoot from
20 or 30 yards.
>
> Michael Essien was the first man substituted, and it may have
revealed the comparative weakness in the Chelsea squad. Mourinho's
vision of two players for each position is well known; in midfield,
however, the alternatives are perpetual fringe man Geremi, converted
striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and the untried Lassana Diarra.
>
> James Beattie's theory, voiced after Everton held Chelsea at
Goodison Park, was that Mourinho's men struggled against a more
physical approach. Though Alan Smith took no prisoners with his
tackling at Old Trafford, adversity, and not the sight of Duncan
Ferguson's elbows, appears the rattle Chelsea.
>
> Didier Drogba, their most improved player, is invariably the first
to react.
>
> Perhaps his real complaint is a lack of service. It is a telling
statistic that Chelsea's last two setbacks in both the Premiership
and the Champions League have come by the same scoreline, 1-0. One
explanation is that few sides score twice against Chelsea anyway, but
it is also indicative of the importance of scoring the first goal.
Admittedly, Bolton did so and were still swept aside imperiously.
>
> For Real Betis and Manchester United, however, one goal sufficed.
It is a reminder that Mourinho has constructed his side on defensive
foundations, that whereas the initial impulse for Arsenal or
Barcelona is to attack, for Chelsea it is not to concede.
>
>
>
>
> And an indication that the Portuguese's quartet of wingers are
below their sparkling best. Damien Duff has only just returned to
fitness, Shaun Wright-Phillips has only shown glimpses of his
scintillating best and Arjen Robben scarcely resembles the peerless
match-winner of 12 months ago.
>
> In itself, it is an sign of Chelsea's excellence that they can
prosper without contributions from outstanding individuals. They may
have to do so again; Hernan Crespo has provided the first hint of
mutiny since Ricardo Carvalho's summer outburst (has he taken that IQ
test yet?).
>
> And it gives Mourinho plenty of food for thought over the
international break. Having mischievously declared that he thought
his job would be in danger after three successive defeats, he must
prepare for an improving Newcastle team aiming for the hat-trick.
After blaming the rest of the Premiership for not challenging
Chelsea. Manchester United have thrown down the gauntlet. Suggesting
a national holiday when Chelsea lose has, at the least, earned him
the admiration of the work-shy.
>
> With the cushion of a six-point lead in the Premiership, he can
turn his attention to easing the burden on the admirable Frank
Lampard for goals, making either Crespo or Gudjohnsen a plausible
alternative to Drogba again, revitalising the out-of-sorts wingers
and tightening up England's most feared defence.
>
> And, perhaps, to ensure that a scoreline featuring the
words 'Chelsea nil' occurs less often than in the last week. Time to
tweak the master plan, Jose?
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps
for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
>

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:39:13 -0000
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Glazer News

'Sshhh, don't tell Roy about sushi.

Roy Keane's infamous prawn sandwiches could soon be replaced by sushi
at Old Trafford, with news reaching the Far East that Malcolm Glazer
is considering launching an elitist debenture scheme in a bid to
raise the cash to pay off the banks behind his takeover of Manchester
United.

Financial institutions in Hong Kong are awash with talk of a plan
similar to that operated by Twickenham where it is possible to buy a
75-year debenture to give you the guaranteed right to pay even more
money to buy the tickets themselves.

It is likely to fill Old Trafford with even more corporate fans, with
the turmoil at the club evidently doing little to frighten away
sponsors. For instance, Nike took out a full-page advert in
Saturday's match programme to promote their Mercurial Vapor ll boot,
with its "strategically-placed traction blades for maximum grip" -
despite Sir Alex Ferguson's rant when he described them as a "danger"
and revealed he had approached Nike to try to phase them out of the
game.

But then you can't trust everything in the matchday magazine. The
same issue had a plug for MUTV, promising that fans could "hear the
views of Sir Alex, exclusively on MUTV" This despite Fergie's
refusal to talk to the club's television station after he came in for
criticism during a phone-in after the Villareal game..'

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:42:11 -0000
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
Subject: UEFA Plans To Fail

'Uefa are unlikely to get their wish for clubs in the Champions
League and the Uefa Cup to include "home-grown" players in their
squads from next season as it is contrary to EU law, a report for the
European Parliament has concluded.

Arsenal are among a host of leading European clubs opposed to the
ruling as they fear it could mean fielding weakened teams, which was
the case with the overseas player restrictions during the Nineties.

Uefa's scheme intends that from the start of 2006-07 clubs must
include four home-grown players in their 25-man European squads, with
the figure rising to six in 2007-08 and eight in 2008-09.

While the quotas refer to where a player has been trained rather than
his nationality, the study - by Dutch legal institute T M C Asser,
Britain's Lancaster University and Dutch sports consultancy Sport2B -
argued they would indirectly discriminate against foreign nationals.

The report said: "It is quite obvious that most of the home-grown
players would be nationals of the specific state and not foreigners.

The proposed rule would indirectly discriminate [against] foreigners,
making it more difficult for foreign players to transfer to a country
where they were not trained and educated."

It concluded that the rule "will most likely not be able to be
introduced under the current framework of EU law" and called for
consultations across the sport to examine possible alternatives.

One of the key aims of the EU's single market is to remove barriers
to the free flow of labour and goods across borders. Uefa define home-
grown players as those trained by their clubs or by another club or
national academy in the same country for at least three years between
the ages of 15 and 21.'

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 11
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:44:56 -0000
From: "WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com>
Subject: We Still Want Mikel

'In spite of the reluctant posture of Mikel Obi at joining Manchester
United this January when the winter transfer door opens, most players
and officials of the club are eagerly waiting for the arrival of the
talented Nigerian midfielder.

A former Nigerian international star with close ties with the Old
Trafford hierachy, yesterday revealed that the atmosphere at the club
showed that most of the players are passionate about Obi joining the
team as soon as possible.

"Most players here are eager to see Obi join the club because they
believe his talent will fit into the style of play here.

More so, that Manchester United is under going transformation and
emphasis now is on young players and not ready made stars," the ex-
Eagles player revealed on phone yesterday from Old Trafford where he
had gone to watch the Red Devils tackle Benfica in the UEFA Champions
League.

The gifted Nigerian has been locked in a transfer tussle between
Manchester United and Chelsea. Even though the 1999 European
champions got Obi to sign the dotted lines moments after his 18th
birthday, the Stamford Bridge side, which has money to spend, is also
claiming ownership of the young lad.

Although FIFA had ruled that the player should go back to his club,
Lyn of Norway, there are indications that the club is more willing to
do business with Manchester United and it was the more reason why
manager Alex Ferguson travelled to meet the player a fortnight ago
but the planned meeting failed because Obi refused to show up
allegedly at the behest of his Nigerian manager, Olatunji Shittu.

"Sir Alex understands the lad's problem and he was not disappointed
with his attitude. He sees the behaviour of the player as an over
bearing influence of his manager on him," the player revealed.

Alex Ferguson had hoped to sign Obi as a direct replacement for
ageing captain, Roy Keane.'

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 12
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:24:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: kunal kohli <kunalkohli173@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: i think sir alex outwitted jose

the team selection from JOSE was a blunder.

not playing robben and crespo.

robben playing with duff was simply electrifying in the previous season

i think SIR ALEX outwittted JOSE

we played 4 in the middle which really helped us to tackle their big 3 in the middle

they would have outplayed us if we were 3 in the middle

"WTC: In Memoriam!!" <balat_ulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
PRESTON .. i think he was right about our wingers giving the rent
boys a hard time and our central midfield outmuscling theirs. i
think that's one reason jose substituted essien. wonder if we had
the same result is robben was playing that day.

Reni

--- In Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com, Preston Adams
<preston_adams101@y...> wrote:
>
> Fellers, check out this article I read on soccernet.com, absolutely
scalding the blue jerks...
>
>
> 'Special One' needs new plan?
>
>
> By Norman Hubbard
>
>
> How do you beat Chelsea? Follow these three simple steps. Get your
loose cannon of a captain to condemn most of his team-mates.
>
>
>
>
> Then loft a deep cross to a seemingly nondescript midfielder, one
of those criticised and a player of no known aerial ability, and
watch him head in from an improbable angle.
>
> Finally, watch your dilettante defender star in a sterling
rearguard action.
>
> Simple, really. You wonder why no one else thought of it first.
Manchester United's 1-0 victory at Old Trafford ended Chelsea's
unbeaten run in the Premiership, stretching back 13 months to their
visit to Manchester City. It says much about Manchester United that
they have been reduced to the role of giant killers, albeit giants
with aspirations of immortality; first Arsenal - then 49 not out -
and now a second seemingly invincible side from the capital.
>
> Chelsea, meanwhile, have now suffered back-to-back defeats and only
won one of their last five games. It is hardly a crisis but chinks in
Jose Mourinho's formidable and expensively-acquired armour are
starting to appear.
>
> A defence recently regarded as unbreachable has now conceded in
five successive games. On Sunday, Chelsea were outflanked, beaten by
a goal created by the left winger (Cristiano Ronaldo) and scored by
his counterpart on the right flank (Darren Fletcher). As Manchester
United showed, quick passing to either wing can leave Chelsea's full
backs isolated until their wingers drop back or the central
midfielders come across to provide cover.
>
> United showed, too, that Claude Makelele can be negated. Attacking
on the flanks bypasses his sphere of influence while, when Chelsea
regained possession, Wayne Rooney and Ruud van Nistelrooy left John
Terry and William Gallas unattended to focus on the Frenchman. Man-
marking brings to mind the shackling of a flamboyant talent,
something Makelele patently is not.
>
> But, of all Claudio Ranieri's eclectic metaphors, the most fitting
was his description of Makelele as Chelsea's battery. Stopping him
hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder himself; he is the
man they rely on for the failsafe pass, the back-up ball if more
ambitious alternatives are not available.
>
>
>
> "Stopping Makelele hinders his team-mates as much as the midfielder
himself "
>
> Stop Makelele and you stop Chelsea? Not quite, but it makes for
more of disjointed game when the champions are deprived of their
usual fluency. But a midfield trio noted for their energy - and all
seemingly immune from rotation - appeared a little off the pace;
consider the number of times Manchester United had time to shoot from
20 or 30 yards.
>
> Michael Essien was the first man substituted, and it may have
revealed the comparative weakness in the Chelsea squad. Mourinho's
vision of two players for each position is well known; in midfield,
however, the alternatives are perpetual fringe man Geremi, converted
striker Eidur Gudjohnsen and the untried Lassana Diarra.
>
> James Beattie's theory, voiced after Everton held Chelsea at
Goodison Park, was that Mourinho's men struggled against a more
physical approach. Though Alan Smith took no prisoners with his
tackling at Old Trafford, adversity, and not the sight of Duncan
Ferguson's elbows, appears the rattle Chelsea.
>
> Didier Drogba, their most improved player, is invariably the first
to react.
>
> Perhaps his real complaint is a lack of service. It is a telling
statistic that Chelsea's last two setbacks in both the Premiership
and the Champions League have come by the same scoreline, 1-0. One
explanation is that few sides score twice against Chelsea anyway, but
it is also indicative of the importance of scoring the first goal.
Admittedly, Bolton did so and were still swept aside imperiously.
>
> For Real Betis and Manchester United, however, one goal sufficed.
It is a reminder that Mourinho has constructed his side on defensive
foundations, that whereas the initial impulse for Arsenal or
Barcelona is to attack, for Chelsea it is not to concede.
>
>
>
>
> And an indication that the Portuguese's quartet of wingers are
below their sparkling best. Damien Duff has only just returned to
fitness, Shaun Wright-Phillips has only shown glimpses of his
scintillating best and Arjen Robben scarcely resembles the peerless
match-winner of 12 months ago.
>
> In itself, it is an sign of Chelsea's excellence that they can
prosper without contributions from outstanding individuals. They may
have to do so again; Hernan Crespo has provided the first hint of
mutiny since Ricardo Carvalho's summer outburst (has he taken that IQ
test yet?).
>
> And it gives Mourinho plenty of food for thought over the
international break. Having mischievously declared that he thought
his job would be in danger after three successive defeats, he must
prepare for an improving Newcastle team aiming for the hat-trick.
After blaming the rest of the Premiership for not challenging
Chelsea. Manchester United have thrown down the gauntlet. Suggesting
a national holiday when Chelsea lose has, at the least, earned him
the admiration of the work-shy.
>
> With the cushion of a six-point lead in the Premiership, he can
turn his attention to easing the burden on the admirable Frank
Lampard for goals, making either Crespo or Gudjohnsen a plausible
alternative to Drogba again, revitalising the out-of-sorts wingers
and tightening up England's most feared defence.
>
> And, perhaps, to ensure that a scoreline featuring the
words 'Chelsea nil' occurs less often than in the last week. Time to
tweak the master plan, Jose?
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps
for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos
>

SPONSORED LINKS
Manchester united fc

---------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group "Manchester_United_2004" on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

---------------------------------

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

[This message contained attachments]

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Manchester_United_2004/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Manchester_United_2004-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

------------------------------------------------------------------------

0 Comments:

Post a Comment

<< Home