Wednesday, August 17, 2005

[Manchester_United_2004] Digest Number 818

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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. smith
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>
2. Re: New poll for Manchester_United_2004
From: Landi Stevens <cricket_luver58@yahoo.co.uk>
3. Re: New poll for Manchester_United_2004
From: Robert de Comarmond <knightmasterau@yahoo.com.au>
4. .....
From: "YiVon" <yivon_tai@hotmail.com>
5. david bellion
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:10:46 -0000
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: smith

alan he dont want play for england he said rather plat manutd res

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:28:19 +0100 (BST)
From: Landi Stevens <cricket_luver58@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New poll for Manchester_United_2004

Hi

I'm Landi, one of the moderators. I've been away for a long time and haven't realised how bad this group has gotten. Could someone please tell me what's been going on? Let me know the names of those making trouble, then I'll ban them!!!!

Cheers

landi

Sailesh Ganesh <saileshganesh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Totally agree with you. I think this group has become
a hate Manchester United group, what with people first
wanting to kick out Ruud, Giggsy, Keano and Scholes,
then ppl coming out in support of Malcolm "I'm the
worst twat ever" Glazer, and now this.

Wheres the moderator whos supposed to kick out all the
glory seekers?

--- Syaikh Abdu Manaf Al Ansari
<abi_abdillahmuhammad@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

> Agree pal, this is the stupidiest poll ever.
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> Syaikh Abdu Manaf Al Ansari
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert de Comarmond
> To: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [Manchester_United_2004] New poll for
> Manchester_United_2004
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> How dare you call yourself a manchester united
> fan. Alex Ferguson has devoted his last 19 years of
> his life to the Red cause. He had a very unlucky
> season last year with injuries and a lucky Arseanal
> beat us in the FA Cup. You should go Pambudi. You
> are not a manchester United fan but a glory hunter.
> You disgust me and its only one game into the
> season.
> Alex Ferguson fan for life
> Rob
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> "Pambudi, Bayu" <bayu.pambudi@nielsenmedia.com>
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> Yes ( Now Is The Right Time...)
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> From: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:42 PM
> To: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Manchester_United_2004] New poll for
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> Dead On The Field .....)
> o Yes ( He Should Have Left Ages Ago....)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:33:34 +1000 (EST)
From: Robert de Comarmond <knightmasterau@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: New poll for Manchester_United_2004

Hi Landi,

Welcome back. It looks like when the season finished, so did all the Manchester United fans. All that was left were the glory Hunters, maybe we should give them a link to the ChelSki website.

Landi Stevens <cricket_luver58@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi

I'm Landi, one of the moderators. I've been away for a long time and haven't realised how bad this group has gotten. Could someone please tell me what's been going on? Let me know the names of those making trouble, then I'll ban them!!!!

Cheers

landi

Sailesh Ganesh <saileshganesh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Totally agree with you. I think this group has become
a hate Manchester United group, what with people first
wanting to kick out Ruud, Giggsy, Keano and Scholes,
then ppl coming out in support of Malcolm "I'm the
worst twat ever" Glazer, and now this.

Wheres the moderator whos supposed to kick out all the
glory seekers?

--- Syaikh Abdu Manaf Al Ansari
<abi_abdillahmuhammad@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

> Agree pal, this is the stupidiest poll ever.
>
>
> Syaikh Abdu Manaf Al Ansari
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert de Comarmond
> To: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [Manchester_United_2004] New poll for
> Manchester_United_2004
>
>
> How dare you call yourself a manchester united
> fan. Alex Ferguson has devoted his last 19 years of
> his life to the Red cause. He had a very unlucky
> season last year with injuries and a lucky Arseanal
> beat us in the FA Cup. You should go Pambudi. You
> are not a manchester United fan but a glory hunter.
> You disgust me and its only one game into the
> season.
> Alex Ferguson fan for life
> Rob
>
> "Pambudi, Bayu" <bayu.pambudi@nielsenmedia.com>
> wrote:
> Yes ( Now Is The Right Time...)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:42 PM
> To: Manchester_United_2004@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Manchester_United_2004] New poll for
> Manchester_United_2004
>
>
> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been
> created for the
> Manchester_United_2004 group:
>
> Is It Time For Sir Alex To Say Goodbye ?????????
>
>
> o Yes ( Now Is The Right Time...)
> o No ( He Should Go On Till The Day He Drops
> Dead On The Field .....)
> o Yes ( He Should Have Left Ages Ago....)
> o Can't Say
>
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Manchester_United_2004/surveys?id=1756149
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> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll
> votes are
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to
> the Yahoo! Groups
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:03:05 -0000
From: "YiVon" <yivon_tai@hotmail.com>
Subject: .....

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They proved, emphatically, that you could win virtually everything
with kids. They formed the core of the team who mounted what was
then the most remarkable comeback in Champions League football.

And now, as they approach their footballing dotage, they are
scattered from Madrid to Merseyside. The past was theirs, but the
future is, well, someone else's.
In Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and Gary and
Phil Neville, Manchester United had a golden generation of players.
The closest comparison came in an earlier era at Old Trafford; for
the Busby Babes, read Fergie's Fledglings.
The problem with teenage prodigies comes when they age. Darren
Caskey, captain of an England Under-21 team Beckham struggled to get
in, now plies his trade in non-league.
For a generation whose twenties were littered with medals, a 30th
birthday was an unwanted landmark. With the infallibility of youth,
the Neville brothers, in their seminal (ok, dreadful) diary 'For
Club and Country' imagined ageing at Old Trafford with their
contemporaries.

After completing a £3.5 million move to Everton, Phil Neville won't
do that.
Nor will Beckham and Butt, the first fledglings to leave Fergie's
nest. As Sir Alex Ferguson understands, great managers don't just
construct great teams; they break them up, too. Arsene Wenger, on
his third Arsenal team, excels at it; Brian Clough, with a double
European Cup-winning team, probably did it too soon; Kenny Dalglish
didn't do it at all, leading to Graeme Souness' ham-fisted approach
at rejuvenating Liverpool.
Beckham was the first, most contentious and most profitable
departure. The Londoner had a fondness for the limelight that none
of his Mancunian team-mates share. World domination beckoned at Real
Madrid, and now he has a loser's medal from the Copa del Rey.
Butt went last year - and, in an unfortunate omen for the three
survivors, one long-serving player is being sold every summer - and
has already moved on from Newcastle to Birmingham.
Ferguson once said he had received more offers for Butt than any
other player, but unless he can recapture his commanding form of
2002, the midfielder appears ill-suited to life away from Old
Trafford.

Phil Neville's move into midfield hastened Butt's exit and perhaps
his own.
He never fulfilled the promise he showed as a marauding full-back at
the Tournoi in France in 1997, but there is still an element of
surprise in his sale.
But whereas he became something of a jack of all trades at
Manchester United, the £3.5 million man has made a masterful start
to his Everton career. Given a pivotal role in David Moyes' team, it
is noticeable how vocal he has been. Perhaps there is life after Old
Trafford after all.
And what of the trio they left behind? In each case, there is reason
to believe that the long-term prognosis may not be good, but Ryan
Giggs seems most at risk. After 14 years of distinguished service,
United's reluctance to reward him with a long-term contract was
telling. Nor did it bode well when Wayne Rooney took his left-wing
role in the FA Cup final.
Then there are the ongoing rumours. Was he offered in part-exchange
for Michael Owen? Were United ready to sell him to Italian suitors
two years ago?
Because, while United have adopted a formation that appears ideal
for Giggs, the man Ferguson prised from Manchester City on his 14th
birthday finds himself consigned to the bench with increasing
regularity.
In one respect, Gary Neville may face a more immediate threat.
United have bid for Cicinho, who has emerged as a challenger to Cafu
for the right-back spot in the Brazil team. In comparison with the
adventurous Brazilian, Neville could appear rather pedestrian. But -
alone among his generation - he has improved in the last couple of
years.
More short-tempered and outspoken, Neville could not be accused of
growing old gracefully, but his leadership qualities suggest his
future could lie in the centre of defence. There was always an
assumption it did - as long ago as 1998 he subdued Michael Owen
playing there - but perhaps the time has finally come to desert the
right flank.

In one sense, Paul Scholes' future is clearest. He has signed a new
contract until 2009 - not every new deal at Old Trafford involves a
four-month hiatus - and should finish his career at United. Once
again, however, there is a potential rival; Michael Ballack,
reportedly coveted by Ferguson. And like Sven-Goran Eriksson, the
more the United manager praises Scholes, the greater the frustration
that his finest form proves so elusive.
'The thing about youth is that they don't know any fear,' said
Ferguson on Sunday, albeit about the England cricket team. It
indicates a greater focus on the generation of Rooney, Cristiano
Ronaldo and Darren Fletcher.
Their elders managed a combined 38 winners' medals in the
Premiership, 2756 games and 387 goals for Manchester United, plus
the small matter of 312 caps for England and 51 for Wales.
But nothing lasts forever, as Liverpool's Spice Boys of the mid 90s
can testify. Most are now in retirement, two play for Manchester
City and Jason McAteer is at Tranmere Rovers.

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:09:39 -0000
From: "wisdomking456" <wisdomking456@hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: david bellion

davids gone on loan to west ham for a year

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